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Two New York judges have ordered two separate defendants to get the Covid-19 vaccine, raising questions about the line between civic responsibility and civil liberties.

In the first case, the defendant was charged with a number of minor crimes, including drug possession and shoplifting. He was prepared to plead guilty, and prosecutors agreed. But a Bronx judge approving the deal added his own condition – the defendant had to get the Covid-19 vaccine.

A week later, a Manhattan judge made the same order, this time of a woman seeking bail before a trial.

In both cases, neither defendant appeared to object. However, legal observers said the two judges’ orders – made in different courts and for different reasons – raised questions regarding civil liberties and freedom of choice.

The orders have sparked disagreements as a number of experts who reviewed the orders could not come to an agreement as to whether they were justified, or whether or one or both could represent an overstep. The debate adds to ongoing legal and ethical complications that have emerged around vaccine requirements.

In one case, Judge Jeffrey Zimmerman of the Bronx County criminal court, explained that the defendant, William Gregory, had been accused of crimes – such as drug possession, criminal trespass, shoplifting and criminal contempt – that indicated that he had placed his own interest above others’. By getting the Covid-19 vaccine, the judge explained, Gregory would be doing the opposite, and so vaccination would represent a form of rehabilitation.

Similarly, federal Manhattan judge, Jed S. Rakoff, granted the release of defendant Elouisa Pimental, who was charged with conspiracy to distribute fentanyl, on the condition that she get vaccinated.

Judge Rakoff argued that it was his responsibility to determine whether a person seeking release represented a danger to their community. He suggested that the unvaccinated posed such a danger, given their “enhanced risk of infecting other, innocent people and even potentially causing their deaths.”

Stephen Gillers, an expert in legal ethics at the New York University School of Law, said that Judge Rakoff was likely not breaking any laws, as long as Ms. Pimental was not reluctant to get vaccinated due to health reasons or “legitimate religious objections.”

Gillers said: “Those aside, I think that this requirement fits within the broader category of the judge’s responsibility for the safety of individuals or the public generally.”

Ian Marcus Amelkin, a lawyer for Ms. Pimental, said that she had told the judge that she did not object to being vaccinated. Although, Cheryl Bader, a professor at the Fordham University School of Law, said that while she admired Judge Rakoff’s creativity, there was a “potential hole in the underlying logic.”

She argued that Pimental’s criminal charges and the evaluation of her danger to society cannot be compared to the danger of spreading Covid-19, and was clearly not connected to the distribution of fentanyl.

Nadine Strossen, a professor at New York Law School, said that Judge Zimmerman framed his order as a matter of Gregory’s personal improvement, and said that she did not see the logical connection between Gregory’s accused crimes and his being vaccinated.

Strossen said: “That made it seem to me like an abuse of discretion. That the judge has this guy in his power and he can impose whatever hobbyhorse is important to him.”

It seems like the vaccine really is the key to freedom, as criminals are being told to get jabbed and be allowed to reenter society…



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Sorcha
Sorcha
1 month ago

Judge Zimmerman. No prizes for guessing what sick species he is.

Gundel
Gundel
Reply to  Sorcha
1 month ago

Wow! What these poor people did to deserve death penalty by poison injection?

Sorcha
Sorcha
Reply to  Gundel
1 month ago

They had the misfortune of having a j e w i s h judge

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Anonymous
Reply to  Sorcha
1 month ago

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John
John
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1 month ago

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Gundel
Gundel
Reply to  John
1 month ago

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Mary
Mary
1 month ago

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John
John
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1 month ago

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1 month ago

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1 month ago

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marra
marra
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1 month ago

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Gundel
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Reply to  Mary
1 month ago

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John
John
1 month ago

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Gundel
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1 month ago

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Sorcha
Sorcha
1 month ago

Roy Butler: 23-year-old Irish soccer (football) player suffers massive “brain bleed,” dead four days after experimental Johnson & Johnson viral vector DNA injectionhttps://thecovidblog.com/2021/08/23/roy-butler-23-year-old-irish-soccer-football-player-suffers-massive-brain-bleed-dead-four-days-after-experimental-johnson-johnson-viral-vector-dna-injection/

Trumptards be warned. The orange J e w i s h pedo rings fully owned turd couldn’t care less if you die, remember the turds words Trump has accused the Biden administration of doing “a terrible disservice to people throughout the world” by allowing a pause in the distribution of the Johnson & Johnson covid vaccine.
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Sorcha
Sorcha
Reply to  Sorcha
1 month ago

Top Trumptard down: Robert David Steele ex CIA and CIA run Q-moron BS propaganda wagon has died from COVID 19. You’ve never seen such a well looking man about to die from flu.

Perhaps Steele was pulled out by pro vaccine Mossad pedo loving traitor the devils orange dump Trump because their 2 conflicting messages were making them both look like the retards they are?
Trump wants to be traitor USA number 1 again and Biden is as popular as a pedo in a playground. The Q-moron and anti vax look isn’t good for his 2nd stab in the Presidential race.
His pimp, mass murdering despised J e w i s h rat Kissinger wouldn’t like it

Sorcha
Sorcha
Reply to  Sorcha
1 month ago

the pedo rings pet turd trump promised to have all troops out of Afghanistan by the end of 2020 but when his cousin Biden got them out in August 2021 the orange nonce is calling it a bad idea.
twitter . com/WhiteHouse45/status/1314196588823281664?s=20
Never trust a word any specimen of the eternal enemy of all mankind says .

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Gundel
Gundel
Reply to  Sorcha
1 month ago

The other ‘make you wasting your time org’ – while everyone waited for the Q knight(s) to save humanity using the pedo-satan stories they managed to reach the children with the killer vax. Just as they promised it to you. Openly.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/wtf-olympic-opening-ceremony-2012-nhs_svZbFgJFaXeX4YA.html?lang=type

Gundel
Gundel
1 month ago

Getting better and better… they basically admitted that covid vax is a PUNISHMENT. Wow.

burymeatwoundedknee
burymeatwoundedknee
1 month ago

legal counter argument could simply subpoena adverse reactions data and argue cruel and unnecessary punishment bordering on criminal intent to cause harm physical and mental to the defendant …. i thought USA was litigation paradise…where have all the lawyers gone? …. i’d have those judges in jail so fast … that’s what must happen to stop the insanity in its tracks today …..

Anonymous
Anonymous
Reply to  burymeatwoundedknee
1 month ago

President Obama, as an alleged democrat declared that “the Pope is the Moral Authority for rule of law” Now firstly the Pope isn’t an American so Obama committed treason right there in your face. In the world’s face Second the Pope is also an Absolute Monarch so that’s double treason coming from the Democratic President. Why didn’t any msm call him on that declaration Well maybe, like Nurdoch, they’re Catholic Why didn’t the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court raise an Constituinal Objection Is it because he now is also Catholic? Basically the Vatican and its ABSOLUTE MONARCH now rule the law and so everything lawful and unlawful z. They decide what’s right or wrong. No one else.

Gundel
Gundel
Reply to  Anonymous
1 month ago

They don’t care with the law anymore, expect of course when they try to use it against you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 month ago

Before anything you need to remember the laws prior record The Inquisitions a hood starting place now with. Jesuit Pope. The first in history. Look at their practices. Understand the origins. Then don’t be naive in being deceived by the velvet glove they conceal the iron fist behind.

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Jon Grah
Jon Grah
1 month ago

Do you have a link to the actual judge interview or notes?
And the case docket? I didn’t see these links in the article.